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    Senior Member analyst75's Avatar

    Are Top Athletes Richer than Top Funds Managers !!!

    “If you understand this way of thinking – that by taking smart risks you can make money over time – it will improve your willingness to take risks.”

    What is the answer to the question that forms the topic of this article? The answer is a big NO!

    Floyd Mayweather, LeBron James, Cristiano Ronaldo, Tiger Woods, Roger Federer, Lewis Hamilton, Mahendra Singh Dhoni, Cliff Lee, Usain Bolt, etc. Each of these stars is one of the best in their respective fields, and no doubt, they’ve achieved success and fame that billions of people can only dream of. Yet, each of them is still poor when compared to the highest paid funds managers in the world.

    If you want to know what each of the star athletes mentioned here earns, you’d need to do the research yourself. On Buzz.money.cnn.com, Jesse Solomon shows a list of the ten highest paid hedge funds managers in the year 2013: David Tepper, Steven Cohen, John Paulson, James Simons, Kenneth Griffin, Israel Englander, Leon Cooperman, Lawrence Robbins, Dan Loebb and Paul Tudor Jones.

    David Tepper earned $3.5 billion last year. In the year 2009, he earned some $4 billion. He’s currently worth $10 billion. David’s riches are even far more surpassed by those of some market legends like Carl Icahn ($24.5 billion) and George Soros ($26.5 billion). I don’t even want to mention the Wizard/Sage/Oracle of Omaha.

    How much do you think a boxing champion like Floyd Mayweather earned? He earned $105 million, thus currently making him the highest paid athlete in the world. Nevertheless, the 10th highest paid hedge fund manager is Paul Tudor Jones who got a paycheck of $600 million in the year 2013. This means that Paul is more than 5 times richer than Floyd in terms of income last year. Paul’s net worth is $4.5 billion.

    The highest paid soccer player in the world is now Cristiano Ronaldo, with less than $100 million in total earnings per annum; yet his income is more than 6 times smaller than that of the 10th highest paid funds manager in the world.

    Can you now get my point? The world of trading has produced many billionaires – past and present. These traders are extremely rich, and the incomes of the star athletes pale into insignificance when compared to the earnings of those funds managers.

    It’s true that top athletes enjoy heavy glare of publicity and are far more popular because of myriads of fans the world over. Some professional traders aren’t famous because they trade behind their computers in the comfort of their offices. Most people don’t know them, save interested individuals who’re mostly traders/investors. When many football fans talk about how rich their favorite players are, they are often not aware that some professional traders are far richer than them.

    With a worth of $1.1 billion, the New York Knicks are the most valuable team in NBA for the year 2013 (with revenue of $243 million for that year). Real Madrid is the most valuable sports team, worth $3.3 billion (with revenue of roughly $700 million per annum). However, David Tepper, who’s not the richest trader in the world (only the highest paid for the year 2013) is far richer than New York Knicks and Real Madrid combined. According to Jesse, the top 25 funds managers took home $21 billion among themselves last year.

    You’ve to congratulate yourself on being a trader, irrespective of your experiences in the markets. The richest traders didn’t become rich overnight, nor did the richest athletes, for most of them had very humble beginnings. By adjusting your trading approaches to achieve everlasting triumph, and by sticking to those approaches, you’ll soon reach financial freedom (though you mayn’t attain the list of the highest paid traders).

    The quote above is from Bruce Bower. Another quote from him ends this article:

    “Focus on making good risk/reward decisions, keeping losses small, and you will start to become profitable.”

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    Moderator Kolyo's Avatar
    In my opinion top traders are much higher paid than top athletes no doubt!

    But the most important is that trading is also more competitive than professional sport. If you want to become a top trader and hedge fund manager you should perform at top level. That’s why sometimes sports tactics and psychology books are very suitable to traders as well and I am reading such books from time to time
    "The goal of a successful trader is to make the best trades. Money is secondary." - Alexander Elder

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    Senior Member analyst75's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolyo View Post
    In my opinion top traders are much higher paid than top athletes no doubt!

    But the most important is that trading is also more competitive than professional sport. If you want to become a top trader and hedge fund manager you should perform at top level. That’s why sometimes sports tactics and psychology books are very suitable to traders as well and I am reading such books from time to time
    Hi Kolyo.

    Your comment is an absolutely truth, hitting the nail on the head.

    Thanks!

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    Veteran Member Dan21's Avatar
    That’s a good point. There are many parallels between professional sports and trading, but even more parallels between PC games, poker and trading. I know for at least several gaming champions who then became very successful traders, the same with few great poker players. I am not ever talking that there is no hedge fund manager who can not play poker

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    Moderator Kolyo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by analyst75 View Post
    Hi Kolyo.

    Your comment is an absolutely truth, hitting the nail on the head.

    Thanks!
    Thanks analyst76,

    Actually you opened a great thread for discussing the parallels between trading and professional sports. Both of them need extreme dedication and mostly rely on intuitive skills rather than learning by the book. In both you need many hours and even years of practicing to achieve good state of mind to be able to reach the best possible results. There is no professional sport player achieving his success in less than few years, the same with trading. I still remember the most cited quote of Gann that he paper traded for 10 years before entering the real market. He is famous with his many years of success on wall street, more than 50 years. So basically yes, we can compare professional trading with professional sports, but the stakes are much much higher and only the sky is the limit for the reward if you are great in the financial field. Unfortunately very few of us have the courage and patience to learn consistently the market for so long. Everybody is searching for fast money these days but this is not the true path
    "The goal of a successful trader is to make the best trades. Money is secondary." - Alexander Elder

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    Legendry Member willyw's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolyo View Post
    Thanks analyst76,

    Actually you opened a great thread for discussing the parallels between trading and professional sports. Both of them need extreme dedication and mostly rely on intuitive skills rather than learning by the book. In both you need many hours and even years of practicing to achieve good state of mind to be able to reach the best possible results. There is no professional sport player achieving his success in less than few years, the same with trading. I still remember the most cited quote of Gann that he paper traded for 10 years before entering the real market. He is famous with his many years of success on wall street, more than 50 years. So basically yes, we can compare professional trading with professional sports, but the stakes are much much higher and only the sky is the limit for the reward if you are great in the financial field. Unfortunately very few of us have the courage and patience to learn consistently the market for so long. Everybody is searching for fast money these days but this is not the true path
    Hi Kolyo, fully agree

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